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				Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 16:09
				by porty6600
				Are there any alternate ways to supply power to PF motors? The battery box is bulky and kind of difficult to install into small machines such as a bike. 
Thanks in advance, 
porty6600
			 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 19 Jan 2012, 22:37
				by mattallen37
				Sure, a 9v battery would work. There is even a 
lego 9v battery box.
 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 16:30
				by porty6600
				Thanks. Okay, I picked the one I would like to use, but I wasn't sure if it will power all of the following PF items:
2 M-Motors
1 Set of Lights 
1 IR Receiver
1 Control Switch
                                                                                             Thanks, porty6600
			 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 16:52
				by inxt-generation
				porty6600 wrote:Thanks. Okay, I picked the one I would like to use, but I wasn't sure if it will power all of the following PF items:
2 M-Motors
1 Set of Lights 
1 IR Receiver
1 Control Switch
                                                                                             Thanks, porty6600
Which did you decide?
 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 18:07
				by porty6600
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 19:13
				by mightor
				Keep in mind that a 9V block battery usually has between 150 and 250 mAh versus about 1500-2500mAh for 6xAA.  So your motors won't run for as long as a normal power supply.
- Xander
			 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 19:31
				by porty6600
				mightor wrote:Keep in mind that a 9V block battery usually has between 150 and 250 mAh versus about 1500-2500mAh for 6xAA.  So your motors won't run for as long as a normal power supply.
- Xander
That does not sound good! What exactly does that mean? The battery life?
 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 21:13
				by mightor
				Well, think of a mAh (milliamp Hour) of a unit of power capacity.  The more units you have, the longer you can provide power.  OK, now say you are using a motor that draws 150mA when driving a small motor cycle.  If your battery has a capacity of 300mAh, it will theoretically power your motor for 300 mAh/ 150mA == 2 hours.  So naturally, if you are using 6x 2100 mAh 1.5V AA batteries, your motor will last 2100 mAh/150mA == 14 hours.
This is theoretical, of course.  If you are going the route of the 9V battery block, which is nice and compact and light, I would recommend using rechargeable batteries, or you'll end up spending a fortune on these.
Regards,
Xander
			 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 22:34
				by porty6600
				mightor wrote:Well, think of a mAh (milliamp Hour) of a unit of power capacity.  The more units you have, the longer you can provide power.  OK, now say you are using a motor that draws 150mA when driving a small motor cycle.  If your battery has a capacity of 300mAh, it will theoretically power your motor for 300 mAh/ 150mA == 2 hours.  So naturally, if you are using 6x 2100 mAh 1.5V AA batteries, your motor will last 2100 mAh/150mA == 14 hours.
This is theoretical, of course.  If you are going the route of the 9V battery block, which is nice and compact and light, I would recommend using rechargeable batteries, or you'll end up spending a fortune on these.
Regards,
Xander
 Thanks, I think I understand now. Would you still go this route? And I didn't see an answer on my power supply post above your first one.
           porty6600
 
			
					
				Re: Power Functions Alternate Power Supply Methods
				Posted: 26 Jan 2012, 22:45
				by inxt-generation
				porty6600 wrote:mightor wrote:Well, think of a mAh (milliamp Hour) of a unit of power capacity.  The more units you have, the longer you can provide power.  OK, now say you are using a motor that draws 150mA when driving a small motor cycle.  If your battery has a capacity of 300mAh, it will theoretically power your motor for 300 mAh/ 150mA == 2 hours.  So naturally, if you are using 6x 2100 mAh 1.5V AA batteries, your motor will last 2100 mAh/150mA == 14 hours.
This is theoretical, of course.  If you are going the route of the 9V battery block, which is nice and compact and light, I would recommend using rechargeable batteries, or you'll end up spending a fortune on these.
Regards,
Xander
 Thanks, I think I understand now. Would you still go this route? And I didn't see an answer on my power supply post above your first one.
           porty6600
 
You should be fine with that.  The recommended rating per battery box by LEGO is: 4 PF M-Motors, or 2 PF XL-Motors.  Those ratings take into account powering the IR-Receiver.  You should be fine with 2 m-motors and a light.  The control switch shouldn't make a difference.  Just be aware, as Xander said, that a 9-volt box battery won't last as long as 6 double or triple a.