Windows 8 Dev Preview is Out

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Windows 8: your opinion.

Awesome
5
42%
Whatever, I use linux
1
8%
Whatever, I use a mac
1
8%
I prefer XP & 7, they really messed up
5
42%
 
Total votes : 12

Re: Windows 8 Dev Preview is Out

Postby spillerrec » 15 Oct 2012, 21:57

nxtboyiii wrote:Windows 8 sucks.
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Do I need to say more?


Installation wasn't as enjoyable as I expected, but no real issues. (Like the 5 minute boot time and then a 2 minute install, then continuing into a far too long post-install.) After the install the keyboard stopped working without notice, I spend 5 minutes trying to figure out the controls in Pinball FX2, to realize it wasn't receiving any input at all...

The metro look is nice and the extra touch with the OSD is nice. However many things with the new interface is simply not quite up to par on desktop machines. The lock screen is straight out stupid on desktops and it should be much easier to disable it. The image/audio/video and similar apps are way too inferior compared to the Win7 alternatives and I don't understand how they can justify to set them as the default applications. The new volume control is the same, just inferior and even harder to reach than the old one. Great that they still ship the old ones though.

The whole app vs. applications is stupid imo. Because apps pretty much is restricted to use the whole screen, multi-tasking is inefficient. (They got it to work on multiple monitors now, but you can only use apps on a single monitor at a time which contradicts the idea behind having multiple monitors.) Even worse, most apps are bad at utilizing large monitors and therefore wasting more monitor space. (Some worse than others though.)
I don't see why they want to enforce that inferior window manager on apps. It might work very well on a small tablet, but for me productivity is the most important and without proper multi-tasking it is just useless.

I really like the new task manager, looks much nicer and has new useful functionality as well. The ribbon interface also works much better than I had initial expected. With File Explorer I really enjoy that they made many existing features much easier to use. "Open in cmd", "copy as path", file grouping, switch "show hidden files" and more, all with shortcuts. The redesigned copy dialog is also great and is much better than anything I have seen on the OS'es I have tried. The "mount iso" feature is also awesome, no major need for Deamontools Lite anymore.

Some improvement with multi-monitor support, but it is still basic at best. Aero-snap still doesn't work, even though I think they said they fixed it. (I will just install Winsplit revolution again, much better...) On the other hand, hot-corners works pretty neatly and snaps the cursor to avoid it continuing to the next monitor. Wallpapers are easier to make now, but I still need to create an image manually to make it look good. The support for the task bar to be on both monitors is a nice add. The start menu always start on the last monitor (when invoked by the start button), instead of the current which isn't optimal imo.
I still makes me wonder why they don't add workspaces, but Dexpot works for me. (Great functionality, I just wish performance was a bit better...)

I'm a little unsure on the new start menu, I like the way the pinned applications works and the search is nice as well, but when I need to start installed applications I don't know know the name of I fear it doesn't provide as good organization. But I don't use it enough to properly judge it yet.


All in all I think Windows 8 is an improvement over Windows 7, but it has still far to go. While Win8 is expanding to a wider range of devises, for desktop use it is only a small step, not a revolutionary one.
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Re: Windows 8 Dev Preview is Out

Postby sidneys1 » 15 Oct 2012, 23:15

spillerrec wrote:I'm a little unsure on the new start menu, I like the way the pinned applications works and the search is nice as well, but when I need to start installed applications I don't know know the name of I fear it doesn't provide as good organization....

Right click the start menu or swipe up from the bottom to display the App Bar, click "All Apps", and then (if necessary) click the small "-" button on the bottom right hand corners, conveniently organizing things into letters or app folders. :)

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P.S. Had some nice screenshots to illustrate this point, but for some reason when I try to upload it as an attachment MB says "The image file you uploaded was invalid" so I gave up. :x
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Re: Windows 8 Dev Preview is Out

Postby mattallen37 » 15 Oct 2012, 23:32

Most file upload is broken. .zip is your best bet, or else having another site host them.
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Re: Windows 8 Dev Preview is Out

Postby spillerrec » 16 Oct 2012, 00:46

I do know that list, but it just appears to not have the same flexibility as the old start menu. You only have one layer of folders, if you try to create folders inside those folders, it will just move the shortcuts into the top level folder. So I don't see how I can do this for example:
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